My version of the best lemon meringue pie: this recipe uses a sharp lemon curd filling, a lofty very vanilla Swiss meringue topping and it’s held together in a flaky, all butter pie crust.
My version of the best lemon meringue pie: this recipe uses a sharp lemon curd filling, a lofty very vanilla Swiss meringue topping and it’s held together in a flaky, all butter pie crust.
This recipe happened because when I thought about thanksgiving dinner and making the apple and pumpkin pies… the only pie I truly really wanted to eat and indulge in, was lemon meringue. I’ve had a very lemony, meringue 2022 and I think this just *fits*. So before I make it for us on this T-Day, I wanted to give you my own version of the classic lemon meringue pie.
While it’s classic in terms of flavor and idea, it’s not at all made the traditional way. My filling has very little water and starch so is definitely more tart and more lemon curd like. Also I opt for swiss which I always find easier, rather than French as I find Swiss more reliable, smooth and easier to make overall.
Lemons: Fresh ripe lemons! If they are not organic, wash them well, rubbing off the wax with a towel. If you are wary of a very tart filling, you can reduce the lemon juice by 2 tablespoons and substitue with water.
Pie Crust: You can either make mine, or another recipe you like (everydaypie has a very flaky one that looks so good!) or you can use store bought.
Eggs: Make sure your eggs are nice and fresh! No need to bring them to room temperature.
Sugar: Fine granulated sugar. I wouldn’t reduce it in the meringue as it will affect the structure. You can probably reduce it some in the curd but you’ll have a more sour filling.
Vanilla: I like to use a combination of vanilla bean and vanilla extract in meringues, I want a very vanilla taste that overpowers the bland sort of ‘eggy’ taste you get in a plain meringue. You can scrape a vanilla bean or use paste, but also definitely add extract.
Salt: Fine sea salt. If using table salt, halve the amount.
Starch: I usually use tapioca starch, it has less of an after taste and doesn’t ‘cloud’ up the liquid, but you can also use cornstarch.
Butter: unsalted so we can control the overall salt level. European or american is fine, the latter is smoother and a bit richer but it won’t affect the overall filling by much.
There’s a lot of steps to making any pie but this one in particular has some time saving perks which come in handy. First, you can make your pie crust ahead of time and store it in the fridge (up to 2 days) or in the freezer (months).
You can make the filling up to the point of stirring it in with the butter (but leave out the starch and water) and store it in the fridge for up to a week. Right before you pour it into the pre-baked pie crust you’ll stir in the water and starch.
You can also make the pie, up to the point of baking, a few days before serving. The pie crust gets a little err, ‘fridgey’ if you will, (you know, that fridge taste) but you could store it in an airtight container to prevent that.
Usually I say that the thing that needs to wait to be made until the day of serving is the meringue. It can be made the day of (early in the morning is fine) and stored in the fridge, but torched closer to the time of serving.
I say this but as someone who bakes regularly on a strange schedule, I often make my pies including the meringue and store them in the freezer. The torched part of the meringue gets a bit soft but other than that it’s still pretty good!
Different pies require different blind bakes, depending on how much the filling needs to bake. I like to work backwards to figure out how much time I need the crust to bake asking: how much time left does the crust need to cook?
For a curd-based pie like this one, we only need 15-20 minutes in the oven at 350. So you want the bottom of the crust to be cooked and browned (since this is a rather wet filling) and the edges should already be turning a tad golden before the filling goes in.
You can use a thermometer which should read at 165 or 170 to be very precise. If you don’t have one, use the back of a spoon: dip it into the filling and then lift, it should coat it completely.
When it jiggles just a bit in the center. The overall filling will look matte (not ‘wet’) and will be firm on the sides. The rest will firm up as it cools and then chills.
I have this thing where I really, really like dark chocolate and lemon curd together. You’ve seen it in these ice cream sammies, these curd bars and soon you’ll see it in some cookies too. I made this pie a few times to get everything just right and with one, I just HAD to do it once and well, I loved it. It’s a thin layer of ganache on top of the curd and under the meringue and I do think it adds something wonderful. Ok, I’m absolutely obsessed and it’s my favorite pie with this layer. Don’t judge!
Right so if you want to be really crazy and have a fantastically impressive tall layer of meringue, use the six egg white and 1 ½ cups sugar. If you want a standard filling (like the one with the ganache middle) then use four. Four is pretty standard
I use a kitchen torch but you can also stick this under the broiler for a minute or two. Keep an eye on it.
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My meringue did not set up. I felt like medium speed on mixer was not doing anything , so I turned it up higher. The meringue was stiff peaks in the bowl. But when I put it on my pie it was more like marshmallow cream. Did I get a little impatient? Should I have whipped it longer. (Maybe 10 min.)
Stiff peaks is perfect and marshmallow cream isn’t too far off, swiss meringue is rather soft. have you seen any of my videos showing me putting it on the pie? Usually after it sits for awhile it firms up enough to slice through